Topic: Days before SELEM !!!

[green_nebula]

Nope - not Bill, not Buffo, not anyone from the ILDA leadership, not in anyway officially associated with Pangolin or ILDA or organizing SELEM.

Just a hobbiest with precious little time to put into a really cool hobby, who wants the rare occasions we gather to be as free as possible of unnecessary drama & BS...

[James]

Excellent!

Then someday you'll look back and realize the value of all of the time and effort I have put into my work.

I can't imagine how or why you would "tire" of anything that was well out of your way to find.

James. 

[green_nebula]

I'm pretty sure no one ever under estimated or downplayed the efforts you (or Carmangary / Hyena) put into your projects.

I do think, however, with your post-SELEM attitudes last year (maybe just a timing thing - we know Gary didn't attend...), you both alienated quite a few laserists who otherwise might have shown a lot of interest and support in what you have been working on.

Seriously - how many past SELEM or FLEM attendees have ever spent multiple pages posting anti-Laserboy, anti-Spaghetti rantings on ANY website, or ever made any degrading, snide comments about the laserists that choose to use those programs?

NOT many, I'd be willing to bet!
Can you and Carmangary / Hyena honestly say the same about yourselves, when it comes to referring to those of us who are quite happy with our decision to use and support Pangolin gear, and / or support the ILDA because we see some positive benefits in their efforts?

And it wasn't that hard to find - open forums, with occasional, quiet visits to see what is going on - here and on PL.

[James]

I guess it's all a matter of how you look at it.

Why didn't you just sign in here with your PL handle, Stuka?

You have no idea what it's like to swim with a shark until you've done it.

I've been in the water since 2004.

James. 

[James]

If SELEM and the photonlexicon are Pangolin / ILDA only, then someone better come right out and say that now.

James. 

[green_nebula]

I guess it's all a matter of how you look at it.

Why didn't you just sign in here with your PL handle, Stuka?

You have no idea what it's like to swim with a shark until you've done it.

I've been in the water since 2004.

James. 

What!  And ruin my good name by posting here!!
No way, dude!! 

Uh, oh - I hear the music from a movie about a big fish starting to play in the background....

[green_nebula]

If SELEM and the photonlexicon are Pangolin / ILDA only, then someone better come right out and say that now.

James. 

Not said, inferred, or intended - but we also don't rant & rave about those who aren't Pangolin / ILDA...

Actually, you might be surprise by how often Laserboy & this site are recommended for guys & gals visiting PL that are just getting their start.
Interesting, huh...

[James]

That is the part you seem to be missing.

The only part of me that is anti-anything is the part that continues to not put up with crap.

Kinda' like this crap.

James. 

[green_nebula]

Well, I spoke my mind, and certainly made nothing up in the process -
like you said, I guess it's all in the way you look at it.

HOPEFULLY, the dislikes, anti-whatever will get left at the house by anyone attending SELEM.

I guess we'll find out in a few days!!

[James]

Well, I spoke my mind, and certainly made nothing up in the process -
like you said, I guess it's all in the way you look at it.

Yes, you did.

And no one hates you for it.

And you didn't get banned from this forum!

Have a great day! 

James. 

PS I think it's really ironic that you care enough about all of this to join this forum and post... etc... etc... etc...

How do you think I feel?

[green_nebula]

Well, I guess I should say thanks for not banning, hating, etc., etc., but this has more than likely been the only time I'll participate here -
postings on PL address pretty much everything I need for my particular involvement in the hobby.  Just a reality, not a bash against Laserboy or Spaghetti.

My concern here is issues, attitudes, etc, that might be brought to SELEM, and I believe those have been addressed.
How those are handled at SELEM is up to you guys...

[James]

My invitation for a phone conversation still stands.

[always]

James. 

[Fanny Pack]

So Stuka is green nebula?  I will remember that.  No friendship from me then.  I have no problems with anyone else.

[aldeberan]

How nice of you to edit your post. I saw what you had there. Threatening to punch a retired military vet in the face? Such a big man you are. Maybe it is best you just stay home, Gary....

-1mW, lol!

[James]

That's right.

And the fact that you made sure that everyone knows that after he retracted his comment makes you a hero!

This was obviously an act for the good of everyone.

What a guy!

So big and important you won't even identify yourself!

Gosh I hope I get to meet you at SELEM!

You're swell! 

James.